This article was written and ORIGINALLY POSTED BY JACQUIE YORKE - October, 10 2008 on doodlekisses.com

IMPORTANT FACTS TO CONSIDER WHEN SEARCHING FOR DOODLES ON "PETFINDER"


 

  SIZE IS S
UBJECTIVE 

 

One person's idea of "MEDIUM" is another person's idea of "SMALL" and vice versa.



REGARDING "SIZE" WHEN IDENTIFYING

MEDIUM AND MINIATURE DOODLES

 

 

MEDIUM = 25 lbs to 45 lbs.
Dogs under 25 lbs. (unless they have been starved and have the potential to be larger with good nutrition) are generally NOT mini doodles.

 

   PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS


TAIL - SHOULD BE FULL ("INTACT") NOT DOCKED

( FYI some "disreputable" doodle breeders in the mid-west will dock doodle tails)


NOSE -
should be large and exaggerated, "fleshy" and bulbus.

EARS -
should be LOW on the head (Retrievers and Poodles) and should NOT in any way protrude OUT or UP.


EAR LEATHER - is generally on the LONG side.  But we have seen doodles with shorter ear leather much like what is typical of Wheaten Terriers.

PetFinder actually lists "cockapoo" as one of it's breed choices when selecting a search criteria, yet labradoodle or goldendoodle are not breed search options. So when searching for doodles on PetFinder, you must search under the following:

Poodle
Standard Poodle
Labrador Retriever
Golden Retriever


Many shelters and rescues, especially those that are located in more rural areas where shelter workers are unfamiliar with doodles and the various coat types and colors, will list what are obviously doodles to us, as being "other" breed mixes.
Especially if dogs have party and/or phantom markings and/or happen to be miniatures.

We've seen doodles listed as Bearded Collie mixes, Briard mixes and even Airedale and Wolfhound mixes ( the ears on these dog breeds are set much higher on the head than those of a doodle )....

 

We've also seen standard sized doodles listed as Giant Schnauzer mixes, Black Russian Terrier mixes, Irish Wolfhound mixes and Bouvier des Flanders mixes.

First generation Labradoodles can also be mistaken for purebred German Wire-haired Pointers, Wire-haired Pointing Griffons, Italian Spinones and Otterhounds to name a few.

 

Mini doodles often go unrecognized just based on their size.They are often listed on Petfinder as Cockapoos, Poodle mixes, Tibetan Terriers, Portuguese Water Dogs, Wheaten Terriers, Bearded Collies or Spanial or Terrier mixes.

We now know that mini poodle and cockapoo tails are often left intact by breeders in the Mid-West and California. We also know that some disreputable breeders particularly those located in big agricultural states where there are Amish populations running puppy mill operations out of their barns, will dock doodle tails. The reason for tail docking typically, is to keep tails from getting caught in farm equipment. 

All of these factors have made it even more difficult to determine if a dog is a doodle based on what are often BAD shelter photos and inaccurate information from shelters....

 

To be certain, you actually have to see these dogs in person to determine size, structure, and other physical characteristics of doodles in order to make an accurate determination. Doodles also typically have a very specific graceful, tell-tale gait when they move. They prance and glide when in motion and look as though they are floating on air. Even the doodles that are more Retriever than Poodle will move in a more graceful manner and not "lumber" when they "lope"  like a Retriever.

Truth is that unless the dog is an owner surrender with accompanying paperwork, most shelters are guessing breed and breed mix at best and have very little time and/or resources to waste tying to figure out what every dog in their facility happens to be....."get em in and get em out" as soon as possible is the typical rural shelter philosophy.

Then you get the OTHER end of the spectrum.......

 

Organizations posting what are clearly NOT DOODLES (pointy eared or raised ear dogs with flat fur coats ) as labrador/poodle mixes.....

We can give you at least 10 photo examples of this on Petfinder at any given moment.


While with rescue dogs there is of course no guarantee of lineage, one who is familiar with certain doodle characteristics can surely spot one in a shelter.

 

THE AUSTRALIAN LABRADOODLE

Crazy as it seems, we are actually seeing more and more Australian Labradoodles show up in the US shelter system these days. If not due to owner surrender, it's certainly due to less than reputable breeders dumping their "stock" at local shelters when they either have unsellable puppies that are lingering or they can no longer afford to breed or care for so many dogs.

When searching for doodles in the shelter and rescue system it's particularly difficult to identify miniature and medium Australian Labradoodles and other generations of miniature Labradoodles and Goldendoodles as they tend to resemble a whole list of other poodle mix dogs due to the variety of doodle coats, colors and body structures...(They can be either stocky or slight of build).....

 

FACT: Cockapoos, Cocker Spanials , Wheaten Terriers and other silky coated, non-shedding breeds WERE UTILIZED and infused into the breeding lines of the Australian Labradoodle. This is particularly the case with medium and miniature sized dogs.

FACT: Cockapoos ARE STILL BEING USED TODAY to breed the medium and Miniature Australian Labradoodle. This is done today to maintain size, improve body structure, comfirmation and coat consistencies, and to eliminate health risks associated with "line breeding" by introducing genetic diversity into an otherwise limited gene pool.


So if you are looking for an adoptable "doodle" in the shelter system, I strongly encourage you to search through other shaggy dog breeds and familiarize yourself with doodle characteristics .....

BELOW IS A LIST OF DOG BREEDS WHERE WE HAVE FOUND MISLABELED DOODLES IN A PETFINDER SEARCH




FOR MEDIUMS AND STANDARDS:

Afghan Hound
Airedale Terrier
Bearded Collie
Black Russian Terrier
Bouvier des Flanders
Briard
Giant Schnauzer
Irish Terrier
Irish Wolfhound
Italian Spinone
Komondor
Old English Sheepdog
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Portuguese Water Dog
Sheep Dog

Wheaten Terrier
Wirehaired Terrier
German Wirehaired Pointer
Otterhound
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon

FOR MINI"S AND MEDIUMS:

Bearded Collie
Bichon Frise
Cockapoo
Havanese
Tibetan Terrier
Terrier
Löwchen
Portuguese Water Dog
Schnauzer
Sheepdog
Wheaten Terrier
Wirehaired Terrier

The link below will provide you with a guide to better recognize a doodle in a shelter.

 

"WHAT IS A DOODLE?"


This article is the authored intellectual property of:

Doodle Rescue Collective, Inc.


 

 

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Thanks!

Thanks for the reminder.  I am posting this link in my greeting.

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